End of Christianity...

**R13** · April 7th, 2009, 02:23 AM

That's my main problem with Christianity, no one wants to take into consideration that it may just not be true. I know how strongly people believe in God, but no one can say absolutely 100 percent that he exists - though somehow you believe you do, faith yeah I know. Questioning is the most important thing a person should do while they're, but it's blasphemous to do so in Christianity and other religions for that matter. That's the free pass it gets though, the "how dare you question something like Him." Sorry, but if you don't question things you are blind sheep IMO. Opiate for the masses.

One of the best quotes I think people should listen to and take into consideration is one from Buddha.

" Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."

I think that's the best way to go about things, esp. something like religion.

**cosmo99** · April 7th, 2009, 03:23 AM

I see where you are coming from, BUT I know in my heart there is a God and there is nothing and no one that is going to change my mind on that. Obviously there is no one that is going to change your mind though one day I hope they will. I would rather be a blind sheep than to spend an eternity in hell.I do not see myself as a blind sheep, I feel as though that those who do not believe that there is a God and that Jesus died on the cross for all our sins, those people are the blind sheep. I find it amazing that most that do not believe are the very ones that feel threatened by the thought of Christianity or God. I have a cousin that is Atheist and I feel the same about her. I acknowledge our difference in opinions and I accept that we see things very differently.

**Counts** · April 7th, 2009, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Burton13

Questioning is the most important thing a person should do while they're, but it's blasphemous to do so in Christianity.

No it is not, the churchs I have been to are fine with questions and are more than happy to "try" to answer them that is not to say that there are some practicing Christans (or any other religion) that do not want to think about anything outside there confert zone in Religion, Politics, , sports, farming, ect.

**Crackersneckian** · April 7th, 2009, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Burton13

One of the best quotes I think people should listen to and take into consideration is one from Buddha.

" Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."

I think that's the best way to go about things, esp. something like religion.

If you believe this then what happens to you after you die? What if a person has no reason or common sense(and there are many of them), are they to believe nothing at all? IMO this sounds like a person lives their life according to whatever life style they desire, whether it be a moral life style, murderer, child molester, and etc.(if it agrees with their own reasoning, then its ok to do it). To me that just don't make no sense at all but your free to believe what you want.

**R13** · April 7th, 2009, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Crackersneckian

If you believe this then what happens to you after you die? What if a person has no reason or common sense(and there are many of them), are they to believe nothing at all? IMO this sounds like a person lives their life according to whatever life style they desire, whether it be a moral life style, murderer, child molester, and etc.(if it agrees with their own reasoning, then its ok to do it). To me that just don't make no sense at all but your free to believe what you want.

Nothing probably. Like I said, everyone wants to believe that this isn't it for us, I want to believe that..who wouldn't? If a person has no reason or common sense then they'll believe anything, see Scientology members

just kidding. But what he meant by that, well what I think he meant by that is that something has to make sense to you for you to believe it - most of the time, if something doesn't..its not true. He said even if he said it, still question it and if it doesn't make sense to you then don't believe it. Where has the Christian God said that? It's always "He said it, He's above you, He's right, He's always right so how dare you question Him". I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make sense to me. People pick and choose what to believe in the Bible, I bet there's plenty that Christians don't believe in...but you won't ever hear it in church. Since Buddha isn't too popular around here, I'll just go with a Jefferson quote that pretty much says the same thing...

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god, because if there be one He must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear. "

People always think they're right when it comes to religion, which makes sense, no one is going to believe in something that they think is wrong...so that's understandable. I can't remember the author and I'm too lazy to look it up...but it went something like "I contend we are both atheist, I just believe in you fewer God then you. When you understand why you don't believe in other peoples God's, you'll understand why I don't believe in yours." It went something like that, but I'm not atheist btw. I just think that hits the nail on the head trying to explain why a person doesn't believe in God to another person. IMO people are afraid to ask questions about the existence of God because they're afraid they might doubt and might realize that what they've believed their whole lives isn't true..and when a person does question usually stops after awhile and chalks it up to "Ahh it's the devil making me doubt". Hard to accept something that big.

**Crackersneckian** · April 7th, 2009, 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=Burton13;1773676] Since Buddha isn't too popular around here, I'll just go with a Jefferson quote that pretty much says the same thing...

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god, because if there be one He must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear. "

"God who gave us life, gave us liberty. And can the liberities of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis; a conviction in the minds of men that these liberities are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson

**R13** · April 7th, 2009, 10:21 PM

And Jefferson was one of the biggest champions for the separation of church and state, which was the reason why I think it's a good think Christianity is shrinking here. Tyranny of the majority, christians have been and still are the majority and that influences policy like Biggin said. So IMO if it keeps shrinking, which it will continue to do so, we might have some things change for the good here in America.

**simple man** · April 7th, 2009, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Burton13

That's my main problem with Christianity, no one wants to take into consideration that it may just not be true. I know how strongly people believe in God, but no one can say absolutely 100 percent that he exists - though somehow you believe you do, faith yeah I know. Questioning is the most important thing a person should do while they're, but it's blasphemous to do so in Christianity and other religions for that matter. That's the free pass it gets though, the "how dare you question something like Him." Sorry, but if you don't question things you are blind sheep IMO. Opiate for the masses.

One of the best quotes I think people should listen to and take into consideration is one from Buddha.

" Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."

I think that's the best way to go about things, esp. something like religion.

Ole Buddha must not have spent a lot of time in SWVA, SEKY or WVA.